Super Androids

[Zazi]

Does anyone else think the androids should be able to transform, either temporarily or permanently, into a super android?

Here's my thoughts:
First, you have to acquire an Adv. Scouter, and maybe Ki Amplifier for the "upgrade," but if that's not enough, maybe have a quest-only item to collect as well.

Then you take a turn to absorb the items and BOOM, transform:
Super Android state lasts for 10 turns.
Base PL x10, Current PL is replenished
Any ki penalties are reduced to 1%
Success rate for ki absorb raises 5%

Anyone think this is a good idea, too powerful, or just pig swallow?

[Reno]

Not a fan of this idea really, because Androids can already become insanely powerful and have incredible abilities the other races can't do. I don't think it fits well with the show either, unless you count Cell, and in my (twisted)mind Cell isn't even an Android.

[Zazi]

I was thinking more along the lines of Android 13. And the quest item would make sure you can't just use it all the time. Still not sure how transformations work here though, and I probably never will...

[cmaster17]

I was thinking more along the lines of Android 13. And the quest item would make sure you can't just use it all the time. Still not sure how transformations work here though, and I probably never will...

Not a fan. Of this idea either,androids are already as awsome as they can get and transformations are easy,just rp well enough

[Xersos]

Yes i agree with Cmaster.

[Reno]

I was thinking more along the lines of Android 13. And the quest item would make sure you can't just use it all the time. Still not sure how transformations work here though, and I probably never will...

Oh, right, I did forget about the movie androids. Interesting idea.

What are you not sure about with transformations? We can help explain it to you better.

[Red]

Well to become a super android wouldn't you have to fuse like a namekian does?

[Zazi]

Well, I understand that saiyans and devils get transformations for an entire day.

I read a few threads and I still can't tell how many turns you'd get with a Super Saiyan or how often you can transform, or even when.

That's why my Super Android idea is a little rough. And I think a Super Android should be too badass to use all the time, so I thought a quest (and now even an android fusion, thanks Red) should make the transformation worth it, and rare.

[Roner]

The thing I like best about Androids is this, while other races have transformations to stay on top, Androids can just stay on top without any need for such transformation.

If we were to include a Transformation (even temporary) for the race of Android then we would need to make it much worse in other areas, therefore losing what makes it "different".

We should not be trying to make all races the same in PM. And it seems like alot of our newer players are trying to do that (See the thread on trying to give Saiyans the same amount of transformations per month as Devil). These are unnecessary and take away one of the reasons of trying a different race.

[noneused]

Roner's right, each race already has enough stats and skills that make them unique and balanced. For example, duugos begin with more PL, namekians can meditate and saiyans gain 10% extra PL when their base PL is low.

[Ryujin]

I disagree with any transformations for Androids or (as posted in another thread) for Namekians. If either race needs to be balanced changes should be made to their absorb or meditate, respectively.

[Ryujin]

Well, I understand that saiyans and devils get transformations for an entire day.

I read a few threads and I still can't tell how many turns you'd get with a Super Saiyan or how often you can transform, or even when.

That's why my Super Android idea is a little rough. And I think a Super Android should be too badass to use all the time, so I thought a quest (and now even an android fusion, thanks Red) should make the transformation worth it, and rare.

Super Saiyan (and other transformations that aren't thoroughly described) are meant to be obscure. We do have a set way that they work and how to get them, but it is up to you to figure out how to get them.

All I will say is all transformations that aren't monthly rely on power level and/or role playing and the 1, 2, 3, or 4 different races that can transform are all very worth it when/if they do get their transformations.

[Epyon]

Does anyone else think the androids should be able to transform, either temporarily or permanently, into a super android?

Here's my thoughts:
First, you have to acquire an Adv. Scouter, and maybe Ki Amplifier for the "upgrade," but if that's not enough, maybe have a quest-only item to collect as well.

Then you take a turn to absorb the items and BOOM, transform:
Super Android state lasts for 10 turns.
Base PL x10, Current PL is replenished
Any ki penalties are reduced to 1%
Success rate for ki absorb raises 5%

Anyone think this is a good idea, too powerful, or just pig swallow?

This is a god-awfully powerful transformation for an already powerful race. Besides that, I feel like all the races that have transformations already have them.

Either way, if an android is played right with the right moves they are certainly the most powerful of all the races I think.

[Zazi]

Since I'm not very good at roleplaying, I guess I was just looking for a crutch. Thanks everyone for the honest feedback.

[Kerunou]

Since I'm not very good at roleplaying, I guess I was just looking for a crutch. Thanks everyone for the honest feedback.

Super androids equals ass loads of power and competition.