Sparring

[Mado]

There has been some confusion on this. From now on, if you want to spar three times, it will use up your turns for the day, and use up three of your self-trains for the day. That means you cannot learn a new move, teach a new move, move your character to a new location, etc. if you also want to spar. Also, your timer for self-training will be moved ahead 18 hours if you spar three times.

[TheRAGER]

That makes sparring Much less valuable! If you can still self train and move it would be better to do that so you can at least play the game.

[Mado]

That makes sparring Much less valuable! If you can still self train and move it would be better to do that so you can at least play the game.

Well, this is how it used to be (this being the original post). And besides, after a certain point, it's much better to spar than to self train anyway, making it worth your time.

[cmaster17]

I'm new so can some tell me the difference in sparring and self training?

[Mado]

I'm new so can some tell me the difference in sparring and self training?

http://www.planetmado.com/index.php?pageid=rules#trainingsparring

If you want to train by yourself, you will gain a certain amount of powerlevel. This number is based off of what your base powerlevel is. The following is how much powerlevel you gain to your base and lose to your current at certain powerlevels, barring any racial bonuses:
0-1,999 powerlevel = 20 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
2,000-3,999 powerlevel = 30 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
4,000-7,999 powerlevel = 40 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
8,000-15,999 powerlevel = 80 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
16,000-31,999 powerlevel = 120 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
32,000-63,999 powerlevel = 200 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
64,000-127,999 powerlevel = 450 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
128,000-255,999 powerlevel = 750 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
256,000-511,999 powerlevel = 1,200 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
512,000-1,023,999 powerlevel = 2,000 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
1,024,000-2,047,999 powerlevel = 3,500 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
2,048,000-4,095,999 powerlevel = 6,000 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
4,096,000-8,191,999 powerlevel = 8,000 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current
8,192,000-16,383,999 powerlevel = 10,000 powerlevel gain to base, loss to current

If you want to spar with someone, tell your ref who you want to spar with. You must be near this person and this person must agree. You will gain 1% of your base powerlevel after every time you spar.

[Reno]

These timers are lame. Do we even need them? It's bad enough we get 1 update a day, if we're lucky, but now we also can't click a button and receive the joy it gives us. The only reasonable explanation for the timers I have heard is that we could spar all day, but still rest if we weren't self-training also. So why the loooong timers? Why not, say, 1 minute timers? These 18 hour timers are just shitty. They also screw with the game. People can't spar together because 1 guy still has a few hours left on his long ass timer. I think all we really need is something just to bring us up to the current time to "reset" our 3 day resting. Peace!

[cmaster17]

I agree with everything you just said I just couldn't understand your. Last sentense about being up to current time with the "reset" resting,are you saying the 3 day resting should be shorter too?

[Reno]

No. I was just saying that if the player currently doesn't have a timer going from self training (He's finished his last timer, but hasn't clicked the button yet), that I agree his "Last date trained" should be pushed up to whatever time it currently is when the ref updated, but no additional 18 hours like the refs are doing now. Otherwise you could send in your emails every day to spar, but as long as you didn't self train, your "Last date trained" would never change. If you didn't know, you are finished resting (And put back to full powerlevel) when your "Last date trained" has not been touched for 72 hours (3 days).

[cmaster17]

Yeah I knew about the 3 day thing,I didn't know it had to be exactly three days on the dot.

[Reno]

Just log into your page anytime after your "Last date trained" has not been touched for 72 hours, and the auto-system will automatically restore your powerlevel to full. 100 out of 100, or whatever.


Here's a better example of what I want in the future...

Currently:
I send in an email to spar 3 times with someone. The ref updates our powerlevel for the spars. It's 1:00pm on Monday, and I am able to self train again(My timer is Done). The ref will push our "last date trained" 18 hours ahead, making it say the last time we trained was 7:00am on Tuesday. This means you won't be able to self train again until that time, 7:00am tuesday.

Future:
I send in an email to spar 3 times with someone. The ref updates our powerlevel for the spars. It's 1:00pm on Monday, and I am able to train again(MY timer is Done). The ref will push our "last date trained" to 1:01pm on Monday. This will allow us to keep self training.

The only reason there has to be some kind of change to our "last date trained" when we spar, is that if the last time we self trained was say saturday, then come tuesday we would be done rested/healed back to full powerlevel. I agree with this, otherwise sparring and not self training would be an easy exploit to gain powerlevel and remain healed. I just don't think sparring should punish us by not letting us self train. I don't know what kind of spell Planet Mado has on us, but clicking that damn self train button is so much fun! I also think the people who are dedicated to the game enough to self train a lot should be rewarded.

[geognisis]

Just log into your page anytime after your "Last date trained" has not been touched for 72 hours, and the auto-system will automatically restore your powerlevel to full. 100 out of 100, or whatever.


Here's a better example of what I want in the future...

Currently:
I send in an email to spar 3 times with someone. The ref updates our powerlevel for the spars. It's 1:00pm on Monday, and I am able to self train again(My timer is Done). The ref will push our "last date trained" 18 hours ahead, making it say the last time we trained was 7:00am on Tuesday. This means you won't be able to self train again until that time, 7:00am tuesday.

Future:
I send in an email to spar 3 times with someone. The ref updates our powerlevel for the spars. It's 1:00pm on Monday, and I am able to train again(MY timer is Done). The ref will push our "last date trained" to 1:01pm on Monday. This will allow us to keep self training.

The only reason there has to be some kind of change to our "last date trained" when we spar, is that if the last time we self trained was say saturday, then come tuesday we would be done rested/healed back to full powerlevel. I agree with this, otherwise sparring and not self training would be an easy exploit to gain powerlevel and remain healed. I just don't think sparring should punish us by not letting us self train. I don't know what kind of spell Planet Mado has on us, but clicking that damn self train button is so much fun! I also think the people who are dedicated to the game enough to self train a lot should be rewarded.

yes:) i know i only been here for a short time but all you who check regularly should see im on a lot and i almost got that timer on an exact schedual every six hours i hit the button and if im early i watch it dwindle down to nothingness just to hit the button and do it again in six hours:)

[Reno]

Nice, same here! If you want to get the edge on your opponents, training as much as possible is the way to do it. Although, training too much and leaving your current powerlevel low does have it's weaknesses.

[geognisis]

ah yes i did say i have it almost to a science i train to liittle over half then fight ,stats are saved i still train fight is over my power is low i rest " thats the spirit eye of the tiger not eye of the snake , not eye of the bull, but eye of the tiger, like the rocky song"

[geognisis]

ah yes i did say i have it almost to a science i train to liittle over half then fight ,stats are saved i still train fight is over my power is low i rest " thats the spirit eye of the tiger not eye of the snake , not eye of the bull, but eye of the tiger, like the rocky song"

cant give away too much of the training regiment though dont want to get smoked too easy

[Reno]

You guys ever get really mad when your timer is almost up, 20 minutes or so to go...and then you end up getting distracted? This usually happens when I fall asleep waiting to train one last time before my slumber, but sometimes I'll just go eat and won't remember for a few hours later. I really like to be on my page and watch the final seconds count down to "Done."

[Teen Gohan]

Just log into your page anytime after your "Last date trained" has not been touched for 72 hours, and the auto-system will automatically restore your powerlevel to full. 100 out of 100, or whatever.


Here's a better example of what I want in the future...

Currently:
I send in an email to spar 3 times with someone. The ref updates our powerlevel for the spars. It's 1:00pm on Monday, and I am able to self train again(My timer is Done). The ref will push our "last date trained" 18 hours ahead, making it say the last time we trained was 7:00am on Tuesday. This means you won't be able to self train again until that time, 7:00am tuesday.

Future:
I send in an email to spar 3 times with someone. The ref updates our powerlevel for the spars. It's 1:00pm on Monday, and I am able to train again(MY timer is Done). The ref will push our "last date trained" to 1:01pm on Monday. This will allow us to keep self training.

The only reason there has to be some kind of change to our "last date trained" when we spar, is that if the last time we self trained was say saturday, then come tuesday we would be done rested/healed back to full powerlevel. I agree with this, otherwise sparring and not self training would be an easy exploit to gain powerlevel and remain healed. I just don't think sparring should punish us by not letting us self train. I don't know what kind of spell Planet Mado has on us, but clicking that damn self train button is so much fun! I also think the people who are dedicated to the game enough to self train a lot should be rewarded.

Reno I agree with you 110% with the whole training and sparring situation. I also agree with your statement about how Planet Mado has a spell on us since clicking self train is just so super duper ultra mega fun.

[geognisis]

You guys ever get really mad when your timer is almost up, 20 minutes or so to go...and then you end up getting distracted? This usually happens when I fall asleep waiting to train one last time before my slumber, but sometimes I'll just go eat and won't remember for a few hours later. I really like to be on my page and watch the final seconds count down to "Done."

lmao happened this morning when i got up at the crack of dawn to train i had 00:23:43 while i was waiting i sat back on my couch and passed back out talk about mad i cursed my computer i dont know why

[Reno]

I think it's a waste of a good auto-system to not let us train as much as possible.

Also, in the beginning of the game, until you reach about 16k powerlevel, you are better off just self training than sparring, simply because you gain more powerlevel that way. This is a shame as well. If we could both spar AND self train, even if the self training would give us more powerlevel, it would still give new players a reason to spar...and sparring is a lot of fun also(Logging into your page and seeing your updated powerlevel).

Later in the game, after 16k powerlevel, self training becomes less important and you'll want to spar for good gains. This sucks as well. Self training is fuuuun! I think the best option would to allow us to always be self training and sparring, even if each has different rewards depending on how far along your powerlevel is (Which I like that self training and sparring changes the further along you are).

[Reno]

lol, yeah Geo... Sometimes I'll be sitting around bored, have nothing to do..so I hop on the internet to train and see I only have about an hour left until I can train again. So I start finding some stuff online to pass the time, maybe the PM forums or whatever...Next thing I know it has been 2 hours! Ohhh nooo! The only reason I got online was to train, and the only reason I was trying to entertain myself was to pass the time until I could train again!

[geognisis]

if they do the self training thing always they would have to compensate by makeing the gains lower for the benifit of keeping every one slowed down on power gains right? isnt that the big thing to slow power gains down? they took vegetas gravity to slow down the monster gains in 10x grav making i think king ki planet the only other means of attaining 10 grav without purchase and thats costly again slowing the individualy so in turn this training/sparring would go against the principles they have set for the round yes?
im new just thinking


by the way 00:38:56 left till i get to push the button :: is estatic::

[Reno]

if they do the self training thing always they would have to compensate by makeing the gains lower for the benifit of keeping every one slowed down on power gains right? isnt that the big thing to slow power gains down? they took vegetas gravity to slow down the monster gains in 10x grav making i think king ki planet the only other means of attaining 10 grav without purchase and thats costly again slowing the individualy so in turn this training/sparring would go against the principles they have set for the round yes?
im new just thinking


by the way 00:38:56 left till i get to push the button :: is estatic::

Well, at the start of the round we were allowed to self train and spar for a while, AND also get updates. Now we can either self train or spar, and sparring takes up our updates as well...Things have only gotten slower and slower since the round started.

I still don't think being able to spar and self train, but sparring still wasting our updates(I think sparring should waste our updates like it now currently does), will speed things up too much. I mean, when below 16k pl if sparring is giving you less than self training, would that really speed things up too much? And later in the game, when self training is not good at all, it really wouldn't change things much if we got those few extra self trainings in when sparring for our updates. It would just give us something to do between updates, and also give those dedicated that little edge that they deserve.

[geognisis]

Well, at the start of the round we were allowed to self train and spar for a while, AND also get updates. Now we can either self train or spar, and sparring takes up our updates as well...Things have only gotten slower and slower since the round started.

I still don't think being able to train and self train, but sparring still wasting our updates(I think sparring should waste our updates like it now currently does), will speed things up too much. I mean, when below 16k pl if sparring is giving you less than self training, would that really speed things up too much? And later in the game, when self training is not good at all, it really wouldn't change things much. It would just give us something to do between updates, and also give those dedicated that little edge that they deserve.

point takin in total agreeance